Comments on: Coming ‘round http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=coming-round Putting the "funk" in dysfunctional. Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:31:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Blobby http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/comment-page-1/#comment-6119 Blobby Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:06:11 +0000 http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/#comment-6119 I agree w/all you say Mobes, regarding religion and marriage. I know it's all been said before, but it's always worth repeating. I agree w/all you say Mobes, regarding religion and marriage. I know it’s all been said before, but it’s always worth repeating.

]]> By: Jontas http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/comment-page-1/#comment-6109 Jontas Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:51:56 +0000 http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/#comment-6109 From the 1st of November it’s possible for gay people to get married, and call it marriage, in Sweden. But some priests can deny this, even though I think they are in minority. The Swedish Church (Protestants) doesn’t see gay marriages as a disbelief of the Bible. The marriage between man and woman, as described in the Bible, is focusing at the love and respect between two people. Therefore it’s possible to get married in church (if wanted) with all the civil rights and so on. Before we had civil partnerships and we weren’t allowed to say that we were married. The big different is that we now can say “he’s my husband” (if I’m a gay man – which I am) instead of “he’s my partner”. The feeling of that is great (theoretically – I’m single), but as of civil rights there’s nothing different. Our civil partnerships already included the benefits of being married. From the 1st of November it’s possible for gay people to get married, and call it marriage, in Sweden. But some priests can deny this, even though I think they are in minority. The Swedish Church (Protestants) doesn’t see gay marriages as a disbelief of the Bible. The marriage between man and woman, as described in the Bible, is focusing at the love and respect between two people. Therefore it’s possible to get married in church (if wanted) with all the civil rights and so on. Before we had civil partnerships and we weren’t allowed to say that we were married. The big different is that we now can say “he’s my husband” (if I’m a gay man – which I am) instead of “he’s my partner”. The feeling of that is great (theoretically – I’m single), but as of civil rights there’s nothing different. Our civil partnerships already included the benefits of being married.

]]> By: Dustin http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/comment-page-1/#comment-6108 Dustin Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:18:16 +0000 http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/#comment-6108 I wanna say constantine, 3-4 hours later, and no I didn't google lol I wanna say constantine, 3-4 hours later, and no I didn’t google lol

]]> By: Dustin http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/comment-page-1/#comment-6106 Dustin Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:12:34 +0000 http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/#comment-6106 Oh Christians took up marriage actually from one of the Roman emperors when the empire converted, I am too lazy to google and too tipsy to remember off my head. Before then marriage was not a church issue, it was civil. It was set, as it had been for centuries, by the local cultures/township/village/etc What they decided was a marriage was. Oh Christians took up marriage actually from one of the Roman emperors when the empire converted, I am too lazy to google and too tipsy to remember off my head. Before then marriage was not a church issue, it was civil. It was set, as it had been for centuries, by the local cultures/township/village/etc What they decided was a marriage was.

]]> By: Dustin http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/comment-page-1/#comment-6105 Dustin Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:10:12 +0000 http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/#comment-6105 My usual argument is growing up in this country, and hell anywhere, we are taught from those around us by example, to fairytales, that when you meet that one and fall in love, you get married, that is the ultimate commitment of love. Nobody taught us some of us can't get married, or have to get civil unionized or domestic partnerships :) It might be semantics, but in the end, there is a reason some words mean something and others mean less. Gay . . . Faggot . . . they mean the same thing really, but one evokes strong emotions in most of us. We'd prefer to be called one over the other. My usual argument is growing up in this country, and hell anywhere, we are taught from those around us by example, to fairytales, that when you meet that one and fall in love, you get married, that is the ultimate commitment of love. Nobody taught us some of us can’t get married, or have to get civil unionized or domestic partnerships :) It might be semantics, but in the end, there is a reason some words mean something and others mean less. Gay . . . Faggot . . . they mean the same thing really, but one evokes strong emotions in most of us. We’d prefer to be called one over the other.

]]> By: Tony P http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/comment-page-1/#comment-6104 Tony P Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:24:58 +0000 http://www.sfmoby.us/2009/11/coming-round/#comment-6104 The reason we're going for full on marriage is because it fits in the framework of federal law too. That's why you don't see widespread adoption of the civil union term. And marriage, your co-worker really ought to know that the Christians didn't take up the marriage mantle until fairly late in the game, around the time of the Luther and his 95 theses. The reason we’re going for full on marriage is because it fits in the framework of federal law too.

That’s why you don’t see widespread adoption of the civil union term. And marriage, your co-worker really ought to know that the Christians didn’t take up the marriage mantle until fairly late in the game, around the time of the Luther and his 95 theses.

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